Showing posts with label G6 international governments. Show all posts
Showing posts with label G6 international governments. Show all posts

Monday, October 22, 2012

A Call TO Arms

As our elected rulers in the sham of democracy lead us more and more in the wrong direction in every part of our existence, the enlightened populous, and I take it that most who read this are enlightened, have begun to take back their lives and go in saner directions. We have begun to recognize the errors of the rulers and are doing what we can to moderate and modify our lives in every way. We have begun to be more modest, living inside our personal wealth more. We are eating better and the farmers who are growing organic food are hard pressed to keep us supplied with cleaner food. The gyms are fuller as people start to care for themselves. In health we are seeing more people using alternative medicines and living healthier life styles. It is the obligation for each of the enlightened to encourage the others to better themselves in these ways. The entertainment community is by and large more aware of this than any other group in the working society. It is to a large extent why California is the leader for change to healthier living so often. It is why the famous lend their support to positive action against war and the many wrong directions of our rulers. My responsibility is clear in making my Pocket Pack and selling it as cheaply as possible; for the more I sell, the more I can give away to people waking up. I made my documentary, “me, the bees and cancer” so that I could show it and talk about other ways of healing and encourage people to take charge of their lives for the better. I am clear in creating a magazine that is called “Homeopathy and Us” for people to trade stories of their successful use of Homeopathy. It is right that the magazine is free so that the curious can begin to know that there are other safer ways to deal with health problems. It is my part in the education process that is going on in every direction to bring us into being better and more useful people. Each of us has an inner obligation to show by example how to deal with life in a better more humanistic way. Each of us can teach our children, our friends and our community what we ourselves know through our actions to support what we know. We are richer than the richest billionaire for we have the power of knowledge. Every Pocket Pack that reaches beyond those who know it is a tool for reform. Every person who buys two and gives one to a friend or strangers is giving a powerhouse of proof to that person. I encourage you all to think on this and whether it is inviting friends to partake of a meal of clean food or joining you in exercise or using gentle Homeopathy for illnesses, you are being a force for change. Our society needs your help to move to a better place. You can make a difference.

Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Libya: another view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek&feature=player_embedded

Have a look at the Green Book if you will to read what Gadhafi wrote about Government and ruling.
http://911-truth.net/other-books/Muammar-Qaddafi-Green-Book-Eng.pdf

Monday, May 30, 2011

Dehumanizing Mankind

Over the last few months I have become confused more and more about what kind of a world I am in. It feels like mankind is being thrown for a loop by disastrous events like Iraq, Egypt, flu, Economic meltdowns to cite a few. Somehow it lead me to reread 1984 by George Orwell who paints a dim picture of the future. It is chilling reading for in many places he paints the road we are on now. Reading the following paragraph I was shocked.

"in the general hardening of outlook that set in round about
1930, practices which had been long abandoned, in some
cases for hundreds of years—imprisonment without trial,
the use of war prisoners as slaves, public executions, torture
to extract confessions, the use of hostages, and the deportation
of whole populations—not only became common
again, but were tolerated and even defended by people who
considered themselves enlightened and progressive".
pg 258 1984 by George Orwell
http://www.planetebook.com/1984.

This is certainly true from where I stand as I was raised with much higher standards of freedom and caring. We were fighting it seemed for a peaceful and productive world. But now like '1984' we are continually at war and this feels more and more like it is part of the strategy of control and centralizing power. We are fed through the media no different than in 1984.

I feel we are being dehumanized by this and somehow finding the control fine as we have an easy life. But we are being driven from disaster to disaster and seem to be losing the personal control of our lives.

I was directed to the following documentary:
"How the free market ideas of economist Milton Friedman and the Chicago School fostered the impact of shock from the 1970s Pinochet regime in Chile to the Bush administration today.

"Internationally renowned author, journalist and syndicated columnist Naomi Klein on her new book "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism". Klein is best known for her book from the year 2000, the international bestseller "No Logo: Taking Aim at the Brand Bullies". It was called "A Movement Bible" by the New York Times referring to its incredible impact on the anti-globalization movement. In this extraordinary interview, Klein discusses the key ideas behind her concept of The Shock Doctrine and its importance as an alternate economic, social and political history of the last thirty years. She describes how the free market ideas of economist Milton Friedman and the Chicago School fostered the impact of shock from the 1970s Pinochet regime in Chile to the Bush administration today."

http://blip.tv/the-alcove-with-mark-molaro/naomi-klein-the-shock-doctrine-no-logo-author-feature-interview-526879
This doc is about 50 minutes long and riveting.

We have not yet arrived at the Orwellian world but it seems clear that we are heading in that general direction. For one example just look at the Security net that will surround North America when Canada and the US implement it. It will be as much a prison for those inside as it will be a defended island for those outside.

The US Congress or Senate have or had under discussion if they should make law that says the USA is continually at war. A clear move toward solidifying the disaster technique being used today.

This seems to be a disastrous road for humankind for it can only lead to reducing the very things that make us human; our humanity and replaces it with a group at the top who see people as slaves one way or another, to be managed in brutal ways. It is sadistic by design and Power is its goal. Absolute Power even over its own ranks.

It is insidious how Power grows until we deem it OK; an example is the Lotteries. On one hand the Power says it raises money for charities but the buyer is gambling and hoping for a big win. Should we encourage our population to resort to gambling to get ahead?

Controls over our choices and our rights to choose are already in place and more are coming as supplements get legislated against and natural and herbal remedies are being curtailed and outlawed. Our lives are being directed as much as possible from the outside.

In our favour we have communications and this gives mass rallying power when needed and opportunities to hunker down in our homes and communities and try more and more to be self reliant in every way: living within our means and not on bank loans of any kind. Become aware of who is in the driver's seat and are the intentions really good for both the mental and physical health of ourselves, our families and the community we live in. "1984" is not here yet.

Saturday, April 30, 2011

How to neutralize manipulation

Dee Nicholson dnicholson@yaknet.ca sent this to me. It is what is happening to our debates with every level of Government. Enjoy the lessons. They are worth knowing.

It is becoming extremely obvious that honest debate on important issues no longer exists and that discussions and outcomes are being totally manipulated by facilitators and manipulators who are expert at orchestrating precisely the results that THEY want, even though these are the very opposite to what makes sense or is essential.
This is called the Delphi Technique.

At no time in my memory has this technique for developing “herd compliance” been more evident than during the present Canadian Election. It is important that we all know That we are being manipulated, HOW we are being manipulated, WHY we are being manipulated - and HOW we can sabotage and neutralize these manipulative techniques.

Attached is a document detailing how to Defeat the Delphi Technique.

Please pass this on to everyone, electronically or hard copy.
This information is essential if we are going to outsmart those who are determined to undermine and destroy our democracy.

We are the only ones who can take back our democracy, take back our country, and take back control over our lives. So let’s make sure that we become masters at recognizing and Defeating the Delphi Technique.

how to neutralize manipulation

Defeating The Delphi Technique
The Delphi technique and Hegelian dialects are heavily exposed at www.freedom-force.org
This document will give some ugly but useful advice in how to defeat the Delphi Technique. If your not familiar with what it is - it is a manipulative method used by Governments, Organizations and Unions to cause a 'pre-selected outcome' at a meeting, event, or function. Its usage is also implemented in any on line instrument such as a chat room, forum or newsgroup that has 'Moderators.'
Here is how the Delphi Technique works (and boy its effective). It is based upon the Hegelian Dialectic of creating ones own opposition in order to manipulate that opposition to a unified consensus. One exposing document from the Education Reporter accurately describes it:
In group settings, the Delphi Technique is an unethical method of achieving consensus on controversial topics. It requires well-trained professionals, known as "facilitators" or "change agents," who deliberately escalate tension among group members, pitting one faction against another to make a preordained viewpoint appear "sensible," while making opposing views appear ridiculous.
So there you have it, - a highly trained change agent or facilitator is brought in whenever a dispute arises where a predetermined outcome is desired. The facilitator will host a meeting (on line or otherwise) to gather input from members of the group.
The trick is anyone who disagrees with the pre-ordained plan is segregated, ridiculed and marginalized, while those supporting the ruling powers agenda are encouraged and praised for their 'activism'. The key is that it is important that the members of the meeting or group get involved, thus causing them to have the feeling of satisfaction that they have been involved in the change. The sad reality is that the entire thing was only a mass crowd manipulation to a pre-determined end.
Here is another example of what it is.
The facilitator begins by working the crowd to establish a good-guy-bad-guy scenario. Anyone disagreeing with the facilitator must be made to appear as the bad guy, with the facilitator appearing as the good guy. To accomplish this, the facilitator seeks out those who disagree and makes them look foolish, inept, or aggressive, which sends a clear message to the rest of the audience that, if they don't want the same treatment, they must keep quiet. When the opposition has been identified and alienated, the facilitator becomes the good guy - a friend - and the agenda and direction of the meeting are established without the audience ever realizing what has happened.
Trap-Dooring the Change Agent
The simplest and most effective method to defeat the Delphi Technique is for everyone in the meeting to know about it. I call it trap-dooring the change agent. Here is how you do it.
Prior to the meeting simply make many copies of what the Delphi Technique is (and how it’s used). That could be as simple as printing and making 500 copies of this document. If there is a 'facilitator' in the meeting, and you are reading this - try to see if you can see this tactic at work. Do you think this is an acceptable method of democracy where everyone’s rights are being equally respected??
I don't think so either. Why don't we start with a polite question for him like “Are you using Delphi?”
How to Diffuse the Delphi Technique
Three steps can diffuse the Delphi Technique as facilitators attempt to steer a meeting in a specific direction.
1. Always be charming, courteous, and pleasant. Smile. Moderate your voice so as not to come across as belligerent or aggressive.
2. Stay focused. If possible, jot down your thoughts or questions. When facilitators are asked questions they don't want to answer, they often digress from the issue that was raised and try instead to put the questioner on the defensive. Do not fall for this tactic. Courteously bring the facilitator back to your original question. If he rephrases it so that it becomes an accusatory statement (a popular tactic), simply say, "That is not what I asked. What I asked was . . ." and repeat your question.
3. Be persistent. If putting you on the defensive doesn't work, facilitators often resort to long monologues that drag on for several minutes. During that time, the group usually forgets the question that was asked, which is the intent.
Let the facilitator finish. Then with polite persistence state: "But you didn't answer my question. My question was ….... ." and repeat your question.
Never become angry under any circumstances. Anger directed at the facilitator will immediately make the facilitator the victim. This defeats the purpose. The goal of facilitators is to make the majority of the group members like them, and to alienate anyone who might pose a threat to the realization of their agenda.
At a meeting, have two or three people who know the Delphi Technique dispersed through the crowd so that, when the facilitator digresses from a question, they can stand up and politely say: "But you didn't answer that lady or gentleman's question." Even if the facilitator suspects certain group members are working together, he will not want to alienate the crowd by making accusations. Occasionally, it takes only one incident of this type for the crowd to figure out what's going on.
Establish a plan of action before a meeting. Everyone on your team should know his part. Later, analyze what went right, what went wrong and why, and what needs to happen the next time. Never strategize during a meeting. A popular tactic of facilitators, if a session is meeting with resistance, is to call a recess. During the recess, the facilitator and his spotters (people who observe the crowd during the course of a meeting) watch the crowd to see who congregates where, especially those who have offered resistance. If the resistors congregate in one place, a spotter will gravitate to that group and join in the conversation, reporting what was said to the facilitator. When the meeting resumes, the facilitator will steer clear of the resistors. Do not congregate. Instead gravitate to where the facilitators or spotters are. Stay away from your team members.
Maybe the Diamond Tactic (communist tactic of crowd manipulation) will also interest you:
1. Plan ahead of time what action you want the group to take: nominate or oppose a candidate, support or oppose an issue, heckle a speaker, or whatever. Everyone on your team must know exactly what they are going to do, including contingency plans.
2. Team members should arrive at the meeting separately and never congregate together.
3. Team players should arrive early enough to take seats around the outside of the assembly area, roughly in the shape of a diamond. They must not sit together. The object of the tactic is place your people around the perimeter of the audience so that, when they begin to take action, those in the center will have to do a lot of head turning to see them – to the right, then the left, then the rear of the room, then the front, etc. The more they turn their heads, the greater the illusion of being surrounded by people in agreement with each other, and the more they will be convinced that these people represent the majority opinion.
The only way to thwart the Diamond Tactic is to always be prepared to match it with your own team. Never take a meeting for granted, especially if something important is scheduled to transpire, such as nomination of officers.
Even a simple gathering to hear an important speaker can turn into a nightmare if opponents send in hecklers. So, always plan for the worst and be prepared to spring into action with comments from the floor such as: “I want to make it clear that these people do not speak for me. I am in total opposition to what they stand for. In fact, I would like to ask them to identify themselves. Who are you? Why did you come to this meeting? What is your agenda?” If comments such as this are heard from three or four people around the outside of the room, the meeting will be very exciting, but the tactic will be defused.
Setting Up a Online Trap Door For a Change Agent in a Forum (eg - http://groups.yahoo.com)
An effective and blunt instrument to put a total kill on manipulations in a online forum is to simply post the Delphi Technique to several similar email lists. In the posting SHOW where you have attempted to post an educational expose showing how crowds are manipulated(both online and off). If a change agent is running a email group they are now in a juxtaposition. If they attempt to censor the document, it will be quickly exposed in the other groups where the posting was allowed. If they DO post the document, their techniques may be quickly realized. Either way they are cornered, and they have to cede their operations or face exposure.
I am truly of the belief that everyone in North America should know the Delphi Technique and be taught to resist it.
Now that you know the average public meeting (or online forum) can be highly manipulated from both sides, did you ever stop to think that the Hegelian Dialectic is being used at a national level by our one-mind propaganda media? Start learning some alternative information so you can become a critical thinker again.

This document is public domain - please copy and share freely with all.
www.freedom-force.org www.prisonplanet.com www.infowars.com
www.conspiracycentral.net www.pilotsfor911truth.org www.tulsatruth.org
www.anomalicresearch.com www.nutrimedical.com www.intelwire.com

URL: http://www.nogw.com/documents/_07_defeating_delphi.pdf



Share far and wide!!!!!

Thursday, December 16, 2010

The Peoples of the world are in trouble!!!

This article is about the state of freedoms in England. It is the same in Canada, the United States, all the rest of the EU. All of us are losing our rights.

According to The Tax-Payers’ Alliance, the total cost, to The United Kingdom, of membership of The European Union - business regulations, VAT & other EU Tax, higher food prices, enforcing EU rules, administration, miscellaneous .. is £1 billion every three days :

£1,000,000,000 EVERY THREE DAYS

In return we have completely, or largely - and soon to be completely - lost control, to the E.U., of our
legal system ... economy ... local government ... immigration ... coastal controls ... business regulations ... tax ... foreign policy ... defence ... social, health and education policy .... NATIONAL DEMOCRACY : NATIONAL SOVEREIGNITY

Thanks to the EU Common Fisheries Policy, in 2007, alone, in the North Sea, alone, and considering three species of fish, alone,
23,600 tonnes of cod : 31,048 tonnes of haddock ; 6,000 tons of whiting ... were thrown back, dead, into the sea : 60,000 tonnes on the sea bed

On All-Fools Day, 2011, EU rules, ALREADY PASSED, come into force with regard to our health freedoms : the targets are herbal remedies, vitamin/mineral supplements, essential oils, organic foods : everything in the natural section which is a threat to the Pharma/GM disease machine.

These were drawn up by European Commission bureaucrats, who have a very cosy relationship with the pharmaceutical industry, and The Medicines & Healthcare products Regulations Agency (MHRA).

In return for passing legislation designed to destroy all opposition to the pharma-cartel, the EC/EU bureaucrats benefit from the “revolving door” route to well-paid positions within the pharmaceutical industry.

As for the MHRA .... “Despite being a department of the British Government, the MHRA is funded entirely by pharmaceutical companies and a percentage of staff and executives come from the pharmaceutical industry. ...

In 2001, the American Food and Drugs Administration (FDA) embarked upon a campaign named ‘Operation Cure All’ aimed at wiping out the producers and retailers of any kind of herbal treatments for cancer. The FDA & MHRA work in close collaboration.” Martin J Walker

The MHRA is the largest pharmaceutically-funded enforcement and policing agency in Europe.
If you were part of the problem, at the last election, i.e. if you voted Lib/Lab/Con OR DID NOT VOTE AT ALL now is the time to wake up.
WWW.UKIP.ORG WWW.TAXPAYERSALLIANCE.COM WWW.JOININGHANDSINHEALTH.COM

Tuesday, July 6, 2010

This fim was sent to me by Dee Nicholson press officer for "Canadians for Health Freedom" - http://canadiansforhealthfreedom.wordpress.com/

The film is entirely about how sovereignty is being removed in Canada, and how it is affecting our choices.
You can view it at:
http://vimeo.com/13024940
Enjoy!
Dee

After watching this and the powerful and thoughtful men who did their best to protect our sovereignty; I think it is time for a new political party.

"PEOPLES SOVEREIGN PARTY OF CANADA"

PSPC

Bring Canada Home

WHAT DO YOU THINK? PLEASE WRITE AND TELL ME.

Thursday, June 3, 2010

An example of what is happening everywhere as Governments grab more money

Dalton McGuinty is Ontario's present Premier.

Here is what he has implemented in Ontario in the past seven years!!!!!!


He began with a no tax increase election campaign.

He increased all the licensing fees from your car to your boat including fishing and hunting.

He introduced the health care premium (not called a tax) some couples pay as much as $1,500.00 a year.

He doubled the price of most lottery tickets. (Not called a tax).

He has put a ECO tax on many containers such as paint cans and window washer fluid most people still don’t realize that they are paying it. He kept that one real quiet

He has put a disposal tax on all electronics.

He has put the disposal tax back on tires

Now don’t forget that all except the health care premium are subject to the GST and PST (taxes on taxes.)

And now he has pasted the HST the largest tax on the province ever, the only other tax in Ontario that ever came close to this in the past was the health care premium.

He passed this bill even though 76% of the people in Ontario were against it.

This HST will provide the Province with an additional THREE BILLION dollars a year.

And now we will have our S.M.A.R.T. meters that we will have to pay rent on and do our laundry in the middle of the night and we are going to pay big time for air conditioning from now on because when we need it the most that will be prime time. As if it costs any more to produce hydro at two in the afternoon or ten at night another tax grab.

Let us not forget the E health scandal with one point two billion dollars wasted and paid out to friends and relatives.

Mr. McGuinty’s answer to this was "well if the people of Ontario don’t like it they can show it in the next election. Nice. This was after he fired the CEO and gave her a severance package of three hundred thousand dollars not bad for only having the job for seven months.

Then the windmill power plant he awards the contract to KOREA seven BILLION DOLLARS. One would think that there was some place in Canada or North America that could have built these.

He closed the emergency rooms in Port Colborne and Fort Erie because there is not enough money and there has been two deaths since because by the time they got to St.Catharines it was to late.

He awards a hospital in Toronto involving three million dollars in the riding where there just happens to be a by- election to replace George Smitherman

He has taken the richest most prosperous province in Canada to one of the poorest and has created a deficit of TWENTY SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS and he still has a year and a half to go.

And don’t forget his nice little salary increase of $40,000.00 a year, millions of people in the province don’t earn half that.

All the MPP’S got 14% increase

Now that they all got nice increases he comes out with a new budget and freezes all provincial employees wages for two years.

He has increased the hydro by 10% in April of 2010.

He has increased the tax on liquor and wine by 10% in May of 2010

But mister no tax McGuinty will retire with his nice comfortable pension and all his paid benefits.

I hope this gets passed around the province of Ontario and everybody remembers the way Mister McGuinty treats his voters. Not one liberal MPP had enough guts to vote against any of the above.

Tuesday, May 18, 2010

ThatChannel programs available and coming from John Board

http://blip.tv/file/3635362
Apr 12

http://blip.tv/file/3616783
May 11, with Dee Nicholson #1

Dee and I are going to do another program to talk about what will be up for grabs at the June 26th weekend with G8 meeting in Huntsville Ontario and G20 meeting in Toronto. There are several meetings prior to this (Bilderbergs meet June 3-6 in Sitges, Spain at a hotel resort called Dolce... "sweet".... Trilat has already met) These early meetings may well set the agenda for the G8 and G20 meetings. Dee with update us and tell and give us a heads up regarding both meetings.

I will have a program in early July to tell us how we fared at both meetings. Stay tuned



Stay tuned.

Sunday, May 16, 2010

The International Cartel that rules us.

Cartel - Definition

A group of companies or countries which collectively attempt to affect market prices by controlling production and marketing. Illegal in the United States and the European Union. Very few major cartels exist; the most prominent example is OPEC, a cartel which can not be considered illegal because it is made up of sovereign states, not companies. also called trust.

Merridian Webster
cartel
Main Entry: car·tel
Pronunciation: \kär-ˈtel\
Function: noun
Etymology: French, letter of defiance, from Old Italian cartello, literally, placard, from carta leaf of paper — more at card
Date: 1692

1 : a written agreement between belligerent nations
2 : a combination of independent commercial or industrial enterprises designed to limit competition or fix prices
3 : a combination of political groups for common action


I have been trying for some time now to understand what is going on in the world as we are being internationalized. In Canada it seems we are losing personal freedoms and these are being arbitrated outside our sovereign state. Hence I must conclude that our country is under other’s control. I do not feel comfortable with this idea.

I think the political/Corporate Cartel which includes all the major corporations and the banking empire of the world is working on its own behalf and not on the behalf of people.

The case below is a report from England in the Daily Telegraph. If you take the time to read it you will see that the winners of this fight should it be the BMA and the Pharmaceuticals is certainly not in the best interest of the people of England. Which is my point entirely.

The efforts of the International Cartel in every country of the world, is to direct the masses through media and marginalize all alternate competitors in the name of profits: Banking, chemical companies, military manufacturers, energy, etc. In the end it will mean less freedom of choice for individuals everywhere.

At this time peaceful people the world over have taken to the internet and the streets to bring the information forward and do what they can to influence governments through petitions and at the voting booths that this must stop. It is an uphill battle against a stacked deck.

If this fails I fear for the world will become a battleground as people rise up to claim their freedoms from this oppressive cartel.

Ayn Rand said it all:
" We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.”

Following is the newspaper article. Read it and recognize the propaganda it spews in its efforts to denigrate and destroy this financially viable safe and successful alternate to their expensive questionable cures that have side effects which can even cause death.

Homeopathy is witchcraft, say doctors
Homeopathy is "witchcraft" and the National Health Service should not pay for it, the British Medical Association has declared.


By Laura Donnelly, Health Correspondent
Published: 9:00PM BST 15 May 2010
Homeopathy is witchcraft, say doctors
The BMA has previously expressed scepticism about homoeopathy Photo: GETTY

Hundreds of members of the BMA have passed a motion denouncing the use of the alternative medicine, saying taxpayers should not foot the bill for remedies with no scientific basis to support them.

The BMA has previously expressed scepticism about homoeopathy, arguing that the rationing body, the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence should examine the evidence base and make a definitive ruling about the use of the remedies in the NHS.

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Now, the annual conference of junior doctors has gone further, with a vote overwhelmingly supporting a blanket ban, and an end to all placements for trainee doctors which teach them homeopathic principles.

Dr Tom Dolphin, deputy chairman of the BMA's junior doctors committee in England told the conference: "Homeopathy is witchcraft. It is a disgrace that nestling between the National Hospital for Neurology and Great Ormond Street [in London] there is a National Hospital for Homeopathy which is paid for by the NHS".

The alternative medicine, devised in the 18th century by the German physician Samuel Hahnemann, is based on a theory that substances which cause symptoms in a healthy person can, when vastly diluted, cure the same problems in a sick person.

Proponents say the resulting remedy retains a "memory" of the original ingredient – a concept dismissed by scientists.

Latest figures show 54,000 patients are treated each year at four NHS homeopathic hospitals in London, Glasgow, Bristol and Liverpool, at an estimated cost of £4 million.

A fifth hospital in Tunbridge Wells in Kent was forced to close last year when local NHS funders stopped paying for treatments.

Gordon Lehany, chairman of the BMA's junior doctors committee in Scotland said it was wrong that some junior doctors were spending part of their training rotations in homeopathic hospitals, learning principles which had no place in science.

He told the conference in London last weekend: "At a time when the NHS is struggling for cash we should be focusing on treatments that have proven benefit. If people wish to pay for homoeopathy that's their choice but it shouldn't be paid for on the NHS until there is evidence that it works."

The motion was supported by BMA Chairman Dr Hamish Meldrum, though it will only become official policy of the whole organisation if it is agreed by their full conference next month.

In February a report by MPs said the alternative medicine should not receive state funding.

The Commons science and technology committee also said vials of the remedies should not be allowed to use phrases like "used to treat" in their marketing, as consumers might think there is clinical evidence that they work.

In evidence to the committee, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain said there was no possible reason why such treatments, marketed by an industry worth £40 million in this country, could be effective scientifically.

Advocates of homoeopathy say even if the effect of the remedies is to work as a placebo, they are chosen by thousands of people, and do not carry the risks and side effects of many mainstream medicines.

A survey carried out at England's NHS homeopathic hospitals found 70 per cent of patients said they felt some improvement after undergoing treatment.

Crystal Sumner, chief executive of the British Homeopathic Association (BHA), said attempts to stop the NHS funding alternative medicines ignored the views of the public, especially patients with chronic conditions.

She said: " Homeopathy helps thousands of people who are not helped by conventional care. We don't want it to be a substitute for mainstream care, but when people are thinking about making cuts to funding, I think they need to consider public satisfaction, and see that homoeopathy has a place in medicine."

She said junior doctors' calls for an end to any training placements based in homeopathic hospitals ignored the lessons alternative medicine could provide, in terms of how to diagnose patients.

Estimates on how much the NHS spends on homoeopathy vary. The BHA says the NHS spends about £4 million a year on homeopathic services, although the Department of Health says spending on the medicines themselves is just £152,000 a year.

Two weeks ago, a charity founded by the Prince of Wales to promotes alternative medicines announced plans to shut down, days after a former senior official was arrested on suspicion of fraud and money laundering.

The Prince's Foundation for Integrated Health said its plans to close had been brought forward as a result of a fraud investigation at the charity.

George Gray, a former chief executive of the organisation, and his wife Gillian were arrested by Scotland Yard officers last month in an early-morning raid on their home in North London.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/alternative medicine/7113054/Homeopathy-medicine-thats-hard-to-swallow.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7279872/Homoeopathy-should-not-be-funded-on-the-NHS-says-report-by-MPs.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7279872/Homoeopathy-should-not-be-funded-on-the-NHS-says-report-by-MPs.html